Debate with a "Conservative" Concerning Ron Paul

An exchange on a Facebook page.

I am respectful of peoples privacy, so i have changed the name of my debate partner to "name-removed"

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name-removed  

Ron Paul had his A$$ handed to him ...he should drop out now

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    Sal Eaglekeeper  How is that?
    
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    name-removed   Was at pitiful performance in last night's debate. His vision and ideas are just like him, old and out of date
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper   you prefer a more "progressive" vision then?
    
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    name-removed   NO, not at all, A true Conservative vision, unlike Paul'sNeoLiberal view
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper   ahh.. so... which neo-con do you support... ?? You do realize that anyone of the other candidates you support will be a vote for the status quo and nothing will change.. correct?
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper    And they we can just wait around for them to just pass some more UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws....
    
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    name-removed:  http://politicalarena.org/2011/12/01/ron-paul-fact-sheet/
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper   I can do that too.... Don't even talk about consistency:
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAulpWLZC2Y
    

    
    

    Ron Paul: The 45th President of the United States

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    name-removed I don't have a candidate yet, but you can be sure it won't be some brain-dead libertarian
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper That is your option, and your right.. FYI, he was originally Republican, which is what he is now,.. he had once joined the libertarian party to become a 3rd party candidate because the status quo wouldn't give airtime to him and So you know... If you are happy as a "conservative" of continually trashed liberties and unconstitutional laws, and now... traitors in the Sebnate and the House voting to take away your Constitutional rights... then have at it.. pick whatever staus quo candidate you want to.. as I said.. it is your right as an American....
    
    At least it is for now.....
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper All you need for proof of Congressional treason... Just look at the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012... 93 senators, and 336 house members, all voted to let the military take you away....without charge, with trial, indefinite detention.. All they have to say is they think you are a threat to the US...
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper that is.. "without trial"
    
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    Sal Eaglekeeper Which "braindead" policy would you like your neo-cons to maintain... the Fed? socialist implemented "capitalism"? Big Banking Control of Congressional Policy....?? Corporate Fascism... Would you like me to go on????
    
    I am really interested on your thoughts... bring it...
    

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NDAA 2012 and the Fed intiative to Battle Violent Extremism in the US

From NPR

"The 20-page White House strategy — entitled "Strategic Implementation Plan for Empowering Local Partners to Prevent Violent Extremism in the United States" — puts some meat on a bare-bones outline the administration released four months ago. In that August dispatch, the White House laid out broad initiatives for preventing the spread of violent extremism in the United States. That plan, just seven pages long, was criticized for being thin on details."

 From Business Insider:

Every soldier that enlists in the Army chooses a Military Occupational Specialty (MOS). Designated by a number and a letter, the 31E MOS now includes advanced responsibilities including command and control of prisoner of war and civilian internee camps.

While the civilian designation likely applies to foreign nationals in their home countries, it reads more ominously now that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is getting nods from legislators as it makes its way through the Senate.

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Treason Day (T-Day) 11/30/2011

I have decided to commemorate this memorable day in American History as T-Day. 

Henceforce when I hear "T-Day" I will always remember November 30th, 2012  as Treason Day; the day our Senate deliberately tore The U.S. Constitution in half, and challenged us to do something about it.

On T-Day +3, we are seeing the opposition to this illegal bill beginning to rise among The People.


S. 1867: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012

112th Congress: 2011-2012
Oppose 3%
Support 97%

An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Carl Levin [D-MI]


Status: This bill has been passed in the Senate. Next: The bill goes on to be voted on in the House. Explanation: Keep in mind that debate may be taking place on a companion bill in the House, rather than on this particular bill. [Last Updated: Dec 2, 2011 6:23AM]

Stewart Rhodes Interview – Senate Detention Bill is Pure Treason – Declares War on American People- December 1st, 2011

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A Sad Day For American Liberty and Freedom

A Sad Day For American Liberty and Freedom

Senate OKs indefinite detention of American citizens without charges Provision

Senate OKs Controversial Detainee Provision, Setting Up Fight With White House

By Yochi J. Dreazen
nationaljournal.com/
November 29, 2011 | 3:30 p.m.

Senate OKs Controversial Detainee Provision, Setting Up Fight With White House

The Senate soundly defeated a move to strip out controversial language requiring mandatory detention of some terror suspects, voting it down 61 to 37 and escalating a fight with the Obama administration over the future course of the war on terror.

The proposed amendment to the massive National Defense Authorization Act would require the FBI and other civilian law enforcement agencies to transfer al-Qaida suspects arrested overseas on charges of planning or carrying out a terror attack into military custody. It wouldn’t apply to American citizens, but the change has drawn strong opposition from civil rights groups and the White House, which has promised to veto the defense bill if that language was included.

Traitors To Liberty, Freedom and The People.

The Senators that voted for this:


Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)








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Breaking Free of our Shackles: Tom Woods

One of the keynote speakers from the Tenth Amendment Center's Nullify Now tour, an expert on the Constitution and American History, Dr. Tom Woods' discussion of America's current state and suggestions for getting back to the founding principles.



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